TYPE DESIGN INFORMATION PAGE last updated on Tue Oct 21 01:58:07 EDT 2014
Type scene in Colorado
Graphic designer in Colorado Springs, CO. Based on the diary of Seth Barlow (1808-181) kept in the New Bedford Whaling Museum Research Library, Amy Williams created the handwriting font and accompanying textured caps font Seth Barlow Script (2014). [Google] [More] ⦿
Brett T. Johnson
Cecilia Ann Harris
Change The Thought
Delta, CO (and, earlier, Stamford, CT)-based Joseph Coniglio (b. Niagara Falls, NY, 1955) and a small group of designers. Check out the typewriter families Carbon 14, Passport, Vintage Type, Garnet Euro Typewriter (2004, grungy), and Telepath.
Other fonts: Aspersion, Grasshopper (dada), Burnt Toast (rounded fat finger face), Yardbord Numerals, Snyder Speed, Autocrat, NudE, Jack Rabbit, Felt Marker, Oregon Dry, Sublime, Omaha, Nomad, Aquacia (stencil), Rainmaker (stencil).
iGame writer, game designer, graphic artist, and the creator and owner of Cumberland Games & Diversions, b. Cumberland, MD, 1971. He lived in Austin, TX, but is presently in Denver, CO. Typefaces by S. John Ross include Axe Handel (2013, grunge), Sans Sara (2011, organic sans), Growly Grin (2011), Powell and Geary (2011), Gelio (2011, Greek simulation family; +Pasteli), Shock Shimmy (2011), Gelio Greek Diner (2011, Greek simulation face), Rugged Ride (2010, a texture font), A Love of Thunder (2010), The Day That Love Came To Play, Unity Dances (2009), Knits and Scraps (2008), Heirany Slight (2007), Merchant Copy (2006), Hexpaper (commercial: font for printing out hex paper (for puzzles and such)), RisusLCBDingbats, RisusLCBKringlebats, TemphisSweatermonkey, HultogSnowdrift (2006), Hultog Engraved (2006), Encounter Critical, Erthe Gaming Systems (art nouveau), Tender Goliath, Temphis Spidersilk (2005), Ten Ton Ballyhoo (2005, grunge), Vermin Magic (2005), Uneasy, Tombs of Rivulax, Almanac of the Apprentice (2005), Yemite Snow Letters (2005), Seven Miles to Heirany (2005), Bold Marker (2005), Apostate Cancer (2005), Bydee Man (2005, based on the handwriting of Austinite Brian Joseph), Uresia (2005, runic), Dragon Harbour (2005), A Kringle in Time (2004, Christmas dingbats), Vanthian Ragnarok (2004), Regal Demise (2004), Nobody Small (2004), Earwax Wit (2004), Always Joking (2004), Hill Country (2004), Barrel House (2004), Iron Lung (2004), Art Greco (2004, a stone cutter face), Powell and Geary (2004), Wolves Engraven (2003), Homespun (2003), Cup and Talon (2003), Glyphs of Hax (2003), Invader Candy (2003), Temphis Runes (2003, commercial), Temphis Laundry Marker (2012), Temphis Brick (2003), Temphis Knotwork (2003), Temphis Dirty (2005), Struck Dead (2003), Double Slug (2003), Oddbats (2003), Phaeton John (2003), Scrawlings (2003, a gothic font), FountainAvenue (2002), Pokethullu (2002), AtlasoftheMagi (2002), Skuntch (2001), Prison Walls (2002), Downtown Auto (2002), Arvigo (2002), Beccaria (2002, very old typewriter font), Cheap Seven Inches (2002), Nicotine Stains (2002), Apple Butter (2002), Merchant Copy (2006), Mexlar (2002), Eye Socket (2002), Spacedock Stencil (2001), Rutherford (2001), SPARKSScrapbook2001 (2001), Sparks ("from skeletal necromancers to doughty Dwarf warriors to Bigass Ogres to chicks with guns - and now an entire science-fiction set!"), Skull Salad (2001), The Temphis Runes (commercial rune font set), Cock Boat (2001, codesigned with Amy Miles), Marshmallow (2001, by his wife Sandra Ross), Yank (2001, handwriting, by Sandra Ross), Focal Deviance (2001), Darn Ya (2001, faces), Punkinhead (jack-o-lantern shaped letters), Rocket Yo-Ho (2001), Thunder Thighs (2001), Dirty Headline (2001, and Dirty Headline v2, 2012: The most successful of the Cumberland stress-fonts is an unlikely typographic hero, released as it was with huge chunks of even the basic U.S. keyboard set missing (it had no apostrophe, for example, and no smart-quotes). Why so limited? I built it for one thing and one thing only, so it only had what it needed. I never expected to see it spread across the globe on buses, TV and movie screens, book coves, web-banners, lottery tickets, signs and clothing. I also never expected it to introduce me to roller derby girls (a whole team of them!), or to hook me up with a pen-pal who means a lot to me, but it's done all those things and more.), Ninja Bootleg (2001), Face Front, Nameless Harbor, Martian Hull Markings (1999), ProtoRooftops (2001), Zarking (2001), Graalek, High Fiber (2001), LastUniform, Wolves&Ravens (2000), Wolves&Ruin (2003), Pigeon Street (2001), Gravel (2001), TheAlchemist (2001), Deco Freehand (2001), Archipelago (2001), Flagstones (commercial), Newfie (handwriting, by Sandra Ross), Hultog (2000), and Lunatic Regular (handwriting, 1999). 15 USD fontmaking service. At Apostrophic Lab in 2001, he designed FuturexApocalypse. The Temphis Runes font set is commercial.
During his graphic design studies at the Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design, Daniel Tijerina (Denver, CO) created the outlined Pillars typeface (2013, blackboard bold style), and the circular geometric monoline typeface Dobro (2013).
Educated at Stanford (M.Sc. in digital typography in 1985 under the supervision of Donald Knuth and Charles Bigelow) and before that at the University of Colorado at Boulder (undergraduate math degree in algorithms under Hal Gabow). Type designer. Creator of these architecturally-inspired type families:
He heads Studio Verso, a site-design consultancy in San Francisco.
Author of The Euler project at Stanford Stanford, CA (1985, Stanford University, Department of Computer Science).
Commercial barcode fonts for 495USD! Code 39, Interleaved 2/5, Code 128, UPC A, UPC E, JAN, EAN 13, EAN 8, POSTNET and Codabar styles are supported. Personal note: there are many free versions around, as well as cheaper deals. From HALLoGRAM Publishing in Aurora, Colorado. [Google] [More] ⦿
Dennis Cordova (Pueblo, CO) needed to make a custom font for PlasmaCAM Inc that was capable of writing text with a plasma cutter in steel. So, no closed curves like in an "o". So, he created a type family without loops called Singe Stroke Font (2011). [Google] [More] ⦿
Fontitude (was: Digital Attitudes)
Fontitude has commercial dingbats, ornaments and button fonts by Thorton, CO-based Rhonda Radcliff of Cyberbuny Creations, and Digitalattitudes: Buttonnieres, Calligraphy Flourishes, Crazy8s, Dingbat Club, Follow Me BABE, Fortitude Flourishes, Novas, Propellars, Roccocos, ScrollTiles, Sectionals, SpiralDisks, Spiralitas. Some freeware fonts at Cyberbuny's Dingbat Delights: Bumkins, Puppins, Holliebats, Teddios, Angels, Clowners, Hearts Galore, Roundups, Designs Galore, XmasType, Kooksters, Flower Settings, NewYearsBats, DingDelights, AlienTwits. Bundles include Calligraphy Flourishes, Fontitude Flourishes, Propellars, Ornaments, Papillions (sic: fantastic butterflies!!!), Weavers Delight, Escroue Ornatures (great ornaments), Buttonnieres, Bevy of Buttons, Sectionals, Be Mine, Roccocos, Follow me babe, Partitions, Glutton for Buttons, Shabangs, Menuettes, Designer Interfaces, Control Panels. At Fontsanon, we find DingDelights (1999). Freeware promised coming soon.
Photo era type designer in Colorado who created the oriental simulation typeface Sukiyaki in 1968, while he was a graduate student at Cal State Long Beach. Sukiyaki was published by Lettergraphics International. Gene was a professor at Metropolitan State College (now University) in Denver, Colorado, where he taught advertising design and illustration, including lettering.
There is a plethora of digital copies and revivals of Sukiyaki---sadly, none of these give proper credit. Examples include the ubiquitous free font Hirosh (by Aarrgghh, or Jonathan Smith, who does not mention Sukiyaki, even though the glyphs are identical) and Itto (by Chris MacGregor). The images below show Gene's original artwork (courtesy of Sara Tack) and, for comparison, Jonathan Smith's Hirosh. [Google] [More] ⦿
James M. Harris' Colorado Springs, CO-based foundry sells five fonts designed by himself, SignPix (1, 2, 3, 4), Earth Font One (1993), PictographOne (1996), and Strasbourg (blackletter) through Fonthaus and Agfa/Monotype. It specializes in tourist and road signs. Harris Design will turn your logo into a (TTF or type 1) font. List of fonts.
Jim Harris made the old shareware fonts Bellerose (1992, an avant-garde face: poster by Benbouzid Fatim-Zohra), Mazama, Premium Thin, RhyoliteVertical (1990) and Andesite (1991) which can be found on many archives. He also made Harris Modern Extended.
Designer from Denver, CO, who combined Trinigan and Znikomit No 24 to make the fun display typeface Spello Noovo (2013). She mentions that this is part of the Frankenstein Type Foundry. [Google] [More] ⦿
James M. Harris
Denver, CO-based designer of the renaissance typeface Mirandola (2012).
Typographer and graphic designer in Golden, CO. Creator of the all caps titling sans face called Bass Face (2011) and of the experimental pair of fat geometric display faces Do It Soft and Do It Hard (2010).
Letters by Wordsworth
Cecilia Ann Harris is a type designer from Bonne Terre, Missouri, b. 1958, BonneTerre. She created Dog Heaven (2011, hand-printed), CroMagnon (2010), an informal face, and the bouncy titling face Fribble (2010). Mile High (2011) is a Victorian family. Hayden Creek (2011) is a great informal script face. Her foundry, Letters by Wordsworth, is located in Colorado.
In 2013, he designed the layered typeface family Summit.
Denver, Colorado-based designer who created the curly typeface Seaworthy (2014). With the Extras (dingbats), this font is ideal for books or movies on pirates and adventure islands. Se also made many vector packs with frames, borders, banners and dingbats grouped under Tropica or Rustica.
Fort Collins, CO-based graphic designer who created the floriated caps face Lush (2012).
Littleton, CO-based designer of the pointy display face Diffraction (2013), which was a school project at RMCAD.
Denver, CO-based typographer and graphic designer. He earned his BFA degree from Minneapolis College of Art&Design and MFA from the University of Denver. He is currently Chair: Graphic Design&Interactive Media at Rocky Mountain College of Art&Design in Denver, Colorado. At ATypI 2003 in Vancouver, he traces his ten year journey to develop a digital Hebrew font based in the ancient scribal writings found in the ancient Torah. Creator of the Hebrew typeface Shin. His typeface Torah was released in 2003 by Masterfont Ltd, and this was followed by Torah Neue in 2005. His completed designs (including his Torah font) are now available in Israel. MyFonts link. [Google] [MyFonts] [More] ⦿
Creators of the oriental simulation face Deng Thick (1994).
This site offered a 500+ archive, that was basically a dump of a font CD by WSI (licensed to Media Graphics International). Be aware that these are typically renamed fonts from elsewhere. I have the following info on Media Graphics, probably out of date: Dan Aungst, Media Graphics, 8175-A Sheridan Blvd #355, Arvada, CO 80003, (800) 598-2037, (303) 427-7833 FAX, distributed by Precision Type. [Google] [More] ⦿
Denver, CO-based creator (b. 1991) of the free hand-printed typeface Figge Hand Style (2012).
Muke Hoplack Tever (aka Kohath) from Wheat Ridge, Colorado, is the designer of RK Accardi (2003) and RK Gaswalt (2004, "a serif face for the Gothic language"). Home page. Alternate link. [Google] [More] ⦿
Neil Mussett (b. 1975, Denver, CO) is a computer programmer located in Amherst, NY. He created Debug (2007), a monospaced hand-printed typeface. In 2010, he added the flared display face Mickey Mono. [Google] [MyFonts] [More] ⦿
Fritz Klinke, NA Graphics, in Silverton, CO, sells new foundry type cast from original ATF matrices and cast on the original equipment. It is working on the 10 through 16 point versions of ATF Garamond 459, and the companion italic, Garamond 460, and intends to recast Bullfinch. Other faces of theirs include Bulmer, Goudy Oldstyle, Munder Venezian, Murray Hill Bold. Klinke owns the entire ATF Bulmer collection, as well as Engravers Roman, which originated with Barnhart Brothers&Spindler. [Google] [More] ⦿
Nick A. Whitford
Nick Wagner (Nick Wagner Design, Denver, CO) created the experimental typeface Cake Type (2012) and the organic sans face Zealot (2011).
Graphic design student at the Rocky Mountain College of Art + Design in Colorado. He created two elegant typefaces in 2011, Fución (multiline face) and Offspring (a child of the marriage of Anatol and Monotype Modern). Behance link. [Google] [More] ⦿
Pictifont is the foundry (est. 2011) of Seattle, WA-based type designer Melinda Boyle, who grew up in Colorado. She created PictiFont (2011, + On The Beach), a 16-glyph set of symbols to personalize one's calendar containing a star, a snowflake, an apple, and so forth. This dingbat face accompanies a set of four monolined sans titling faces called PictiFont Thin (2011).
Great handletterer (b. 1929 in Far Rockaway, Long Island of Russian parents) who grew up in New York City. He studied lettering with Paul Standard, Georg Salter and Leo Manso at The Cooper Union and graduated from The Cooper Union in 1951. He worked at the same studio as Milton Glaser for the next three years. Rahael become a designer and worked for some time for Lippincott and Margulies in New York. Raphael lived in Colorado for a long time, but is now based in Bellingham, WA.
In 1969 he patented a squarish typeface for Tyco Laboratories in Waltham, MA. In 1972, he moved to Newport, RI and resumed his career in lettering, calligraphy and graphic design.
His typeface Avia (VGC) was an expansion of a logofont he did for Abex Corporation, almost like a stencil. It is now at Font Bureau, where Jill Pichotta has added the Light and Bold in 2000. His typeface Visa (1966, VGC) won the Second Prize in the 1966 VGC National Type Face Design Competition. Others (thanks, Alexander Tochilovsky) confirm what I thought---that Visa and Avia are the same thing. Finally, Sloop Script One (1994, Richard Lipton, Font Bureau) is based on Boguslav's designs.
Richard Beatty (Colorado) made beautiful fonts, often revivals and interpretations of old typefaces and calligraphic designs, around 1990-1993 under the name "Richard Beatty Designs". In all, he created over 500 designs, but most were only for private or corporate use. Typefaces:
Denver-based and British-born Rick Griffith, who has taught graphic design and typography at the University of Colorado Denver, the Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design and the University of Denver, is interviewed by Joel Warner. [Google] [More] ⦿
Samuel John Ross
Colorado-based designer (b. 1988), aka GyakuSetsu and before that, BringMeToLife.Com. Designer of the elegant display face Evanescence (2003), also called Anywhere (2004), which is based on a scan of lettering found on Evanescence's live CD/DVD set Anywhere But Home. He also designed The Last Font I'm Wasting On You (2006). Home page. See also here. [Google] [More] ⦿
Born&raised in Grand Junction Colorado, educated in art&graphic design at Western State College of Colorado, Scott now works as a freelance designer in Wichita, KS.
One of the trends in type design schools, started ca. 2010, was to make typefaces using genetic material from two existing ones. The results are called "offspring". One example of this is Sean Maher's art deco face Midtowne (2011), which combines ITC Kabel and Manhattan ITC. Akt (2011) is an extreme-contrast expermintal typeface.
Simeon out West Foundry
Brett T. Johnson's outfit in Englewood, CO, sells fonts based on ideas from Byzantine, Ge'ez and old slavonic scripts, to name a few. Brett Johnson was born in Loveland, CO, in 1972. The creations: Simeon's Handwritten Blackletter (2008), Pseudo-Hellenic (2008, a Greek and Latin didone pair), Tiblisi (2008, a Georgian simulation face), Pentopolis (2008, based on an ancient Coptic script), Svati Sava (2008, a Serb-look font), Muscovite Manuscript (2005), Pravoslavnie (2005), Alexandria (2005), Alaskaya (2006), Svati Nikolai (2005), Thebes (2005), Suzdal (2005), Kniga Molitva (2005), Vladimir (2005), Scetis (2005), Adis Ababa (2008). Colonial Press (+Italic) (2008) is based on work by William Caslon I (1692-1766). Klingspor link. [Google] [MyFonts] [More] ⦿
Squigglies Clip Art and Fonts
Dingbat type designer, born in Denver, CO, in 1961. He runs the Dingbatcave with Ann Stretton. There, he made mainly insect-related fonts and some borders. For example, he did Stan Bugs and Stan Beetles. [Google] [MyFonts] [More] ⦿
Statica Productions (or: House of TypoTaboo)
Jonas Stoltz at Statica Productions (or: House of TypoTaboo) in Denver, CO, designed FreersBadLuck, 7YearsBadLuck, Achten, AlienScript, AnarchistBible, AnarchistBible, Apokalypto, BingBangBoom, BoogieOogieShoes, BrokenSpinalColumn, Brute, BuddahBaby, CandyKisses, ClownCollegeDropoutNotSoFunny, CookieMouth, CrackheadWrestlingFederation, CrypticFunkadelia, DJ4Skin, DasSpaceFiend, Deterioratus, Detoxify, EspionageMustacheKit1, Essendon, FashionablyNumb, FlatmanHeavy, FlatmanNormal, FlatmanThin, GloomyGus, GradeSchoolSissy, HairDingbats, IchBins, JerryBold, Kilaver, LiveEQStraightUp, Longmuire, MadnessIndeed, Mayaku, MightyChickenScratch, MondoMessoFonto2, MondoMessoFontoBold, MondoMessoFontoItalic, Morlandic, Nebullium, NewMozak, PharyngoCracked, PickAhhShow, PoisonDots, Psychye, RealHorrorShow, Riquoth, Rockbox, RomanAcid, RoundedGenius, RubberWalls, ScreenwritersNightmare, ScreenwritersNightmareBold, ShockShock, SirSmoothy, SkySkunk, SmokinFatties, Smoolie, SomebodyDied, SpeedDemon, SpikeyMikey, Spooknic, Steokes, StrangeBrew, SurfPunx, SurfPunxHeavy, SurfPunxItalic, SurfPunxLight, TheDoghouse, TheoryofCremation, ThoughtTrain, TooDamnDrunk, TribalRed1, VOpen, Vipertuism, WideEyeFucker, WiseRabbitSays, Xomic, Yakabuza. Some fonts are also carried at Flash Kit. Logo font at 20 USD, fully custom font from 300 to 1000 USD. The fonts were designed in 1999-2001. Most have no punctuation, and half have no lower case. Only the futuristic Nebullium is semi-useful. Another URL. Direct downloads. Most of the original links are gone, and Statica got out of font production in 2005. Dafont link. [Google] [More] ⦿
Rochester Institute of Technology's School of Printing graduate who lived in California and in Holland, MI, and now resides in Louisville, Colorado. He was a disciple of Chuck Bigelow and Kris Holmes. MyFonts page on him. In 1990, he started work at Monotype in Palo Alto to create the Windows truetype core fonts Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New. He stayed with Monotype and then Agfa/Monotype until 2003 (when he was probably fired, but that is only an unreliable guess), directing type development from the design office in Palo Alto, CA. Bio at Agfa/Monotype. He has directed branding projects such as Agilent Technology's corporate sans serif and Microsoft's corporate font family 'Segoe'. At the same time, he was involved in producing bitmaps and outline fonts for cell phones and TV set top environments. He has worked extensively designing Greek, Cyrllic, Thai, Hebrew and Arabic alphabets to satisfy the requirements of customers such as IBM, Microsoft, Nokia, Sun and Sybase. In 2004, he co-founded Ascender Corporation in Northbrook, IL, where he remained Type Design Director until Ascender was bought by Monotype, where he now heads the type design team (12 people in all, as of 2013).
The Made Shop was started in 2002 by husband and wife partners Marke Johnson and Kimberly Johnson with brothers Nathan Johnson and Zachary Johnson. It is located in Denver, CO. In 2014, they created the headline art deco sans typeface Trash Deco. Behance link. [Google] [More] ⦿
Denver, CO-based creator (b. 1973) of these free dingbat fonts: ReZZyN'SHeartsDesire (2008), ReZZyN'S-KissNBuds (2008), ReZZyNSScrolls (2008), ReZZyN'SHeartsDesire (2008), ReZZyNTattoo1 (2008). Alternate URL. Before that, she was known as Theresa Mustaccio and Theresa Mustaccio-Bail and Theresa Bail, and had a web presence called Fontageous. She was (is?) a bridal consultant and seamstress from Northglenn, CO, who offered her own font designs: HotHotHot, Fiesta, Computer Calculator, TheresaDolphins, WeddingCelebrationsDings, Bail Celebrations, Theresa Cursive Hand (2001), Chicken Hatchlings (1998), BailPlayfulDolphins (1998), PotOfGold (alphadings, 1998), Wedding Script Bail (1999), Swyfp, Dawson's Creek (1998, see also here), Tamagotchi, FemaleBodyParts (demo), WedDing (1998), Heads. [Google] [More] ⦿
Boulder, CO-based creator of a typographic poster for the cyclo-cross world championships in Louisville, KY, in 2013.
Voltage Ltd (or: Typefreak)
Voltage writes: VOLTAGE LTD is an extension of VOLTAGE A + D, a digital advertising and design studio based in Louisville, Colorado. Creative Director and CEO, Eric Fowles, founded the agency, which specializes in high-powered creative thinking and graphic design for everything from websites and emails to banner ads and branding, in early 2005. Eight years later, Fowles, a passionate advocate for artists whose work you may recognize on book covers and in magazines, but whose names go too often overlooked, created VOLTAGE LTD. More than just an independent type foundry, VOLTAGE Limited collaborates with artists around the world to forever preserve the unique genius of their signature hand lettering styles in the form of edgy, memorable, and lasting type.
Established at the beginning of 2013, the first type designers include Julia Rothman, Chris Watson, Rich Jacobs, and Ashley Mackay.
Webster&Wallace Creative Agency
The creative alliance of Brandon Webster and Wallace in Colorado is into identity design, photography, website design, print and packaging since 2004. Brandon Webster made the cool uber-experimental geometric face Mila in 2009. [Google] [More] ⦿
William Scott McConnell
Foundry that does custom work and sells some fonts, mostly grungy modifications of well-known styles. Font names: Leubner (2002), Topogigio (2002), Babushka (2001), Minsk (2001, like Babushka, a gorgeous Cyrillic imitation font), bank, bastante, basterg, blanco, blip, bodega, boot, cabra, caslost, chefic, chiva, classico, coalities, cobrag, conduct, constitution, crate, curse, deconstruct, dente, dupe, flash, gross, gus, highway, hippie, houdini, jose, lagrima, life, liquor, liturgy, marta, mencilbold, moda, muchobas, mypure, obelika, preacher, prodigy, qwerty, random, recog, rescue, seviche, sign, stenciloni, tainted, verve, zocrab, spam, spike, kutztown, student (free), kunkeltown (free stencil font).
The fonts are made by Gerry Chapleski (b. Bahamas, 1957), who used to run the outfit under the names Gerry Chapleski Design and EditableGraphics. The foundry, Words++Pictures, is located in Broomfield, CO. Freeware fonts Crate (a stencil font, 2001), Circuit (2001), Alien (2002), Onesystem (2002), Vindex (2002), Shrek (2002), Seviche (2001), Flute (stencil, 2001) and Supa (2002, OCR font).
MyFonts sells these fonts: Alien, Andalusia, Ave Maria, Babino, Babushka, Bastante, Basterg, Blogger, Bodacious, Cabra, Chefic, Chiva, Circuit, Classico, Coalities, Cobrag, Conduct, Constitution, Cordoba, Crate, Curse, Decon, Domo, Dupe, Flash, Flute, Function (1995, typewriter), Geek, Geo, Geomed, Gross, Grotto, Gus, Highway, Hippie, Houdini (a tweaked didone), Ingots, Jose, Kinko, Kunkeltown (stencil), Kutztown, Leubner, Lifer, Limbo, Liturgy, Marta, Mencilbold, Minsk, Moda, Muchobastante, Mypure, Obelika, Onesystem, Preacher, Prodigy, Qwerty, Random, Readme, Rescue, Seviche, Shrek, Sign, Spam, Spike, Student, Sweat, Topogigio, Totti, Version2, Vindex, Vivacious, Zocrab.